On Stephanie Ruhle's show last week, I heard a lot about how young white males are being "left behind" and are therefore gravitating to trump. My take is they aren't being left behind, they are being expected to compete on equal footing for once with women and people of color and they would rather listen to bozos like Musk and trump tell them it's not their fault they can't do it. I cannot begin to compare my experience with that of people of color, but as a woman who decided to become a nuclear engineer in 1973 and attend Georgia Tech (which did not have women's bathrooms in buildings built as recently as 1972) and being told to leave class to make room for a man who would need a job, etc, I found that the most frightening thing to white males is being outperformed by "the other", especially women. And women of color are the scariest of all!
PS - that year my sister gave me a sign that says "Women who strive to be equal to men lack ambition." It still sits on top of my bookshelf under the clock.
Love the sign! Similar to my experience. I backed myself and told my boss, when I leave, it will take 4 of them to do my job. And it did. Karma is a badass!
Here are my thoughts : One thing The Industrial building of America put in place were rich White Men who brought in money from land & rail road barons. All whose money originally came from European colonization. Colonization gave us our labor force. Natives, African, Chinese, Irish. This system has not changed. It tried to change in the 1960’s but killing our leaders. Putting laws in place to keep color from mixing with Europeans . Trump, musk, the money holders all believe they reign supreme! You cannot put us back in a box. There are too many of us. That’s why Trump is yelling lock up & deport. Their bubble will burst when fascism grabs hold of the next historic moment. A Black Women President. Musk is not all there. Trump is not all there. Vance is…… Dangerous. The Supreme Court is dangerous. The DOJ headed by Merrick Garland is a total disappointment. Musk should have been deported. Trump should have assets frozen and himself devoid of anything American. We have to Vote!! The VP better go to Michigan to get the American Palestinians to vote for her NOW!!!!
Here is my thought about that. With Republicans totally controlling Congress exactly how are we as Americans supposed to counter? If the idiot in chief has his way he might very well remain in office. The Democratic Party has been taking a few things for granted, i.e, Black and Brown votes. Perhaps I don’t know how things work in Washington, but it just seems that everyone is assuming that there will be another election. Could it be that the Democratic Party has been taking a lot of things for granted? It was them who said that Roe v Wade wouldn’t be overturned.
@Annesmith you know I wrote this the day after the election. I’d hoped by now the govt would have found cheating. In my mind that seemed the only way this disgust could end. As the days have marched on and nothing from our side. Play along with Americas 3rd greatest travesty. First was indigenous genocide. Second slavery . Here America is AGAIN. Greed!
These are precisely the three travesties MAGAts are referring to when they say MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN: genocide, slavery and greed. They want to EXPAND on each travesty and “improve government efficiency” by stealing the taxpayers revenue, which they themselves are careful NOT TO PAY, and eliminate social safety networks which have worked to benefit non-billionaires for many decades.
So interesting Joy! Thanks for the hihistory lesson too. I am writing a piece as well speak (taking a snack break while I watch Nicole's show) about the degrees of white racism in America. I should have it posted soon 😉
Elon showing up and jumping and everyone cheering is top 1 most cringe things I see every time. He is literally a 53 year old man.
The way he tries to shout "Fight, fight, fight" is on another level of CRINGE too. This dude will do literally everything for that tax cut Trump promised him. This is a speech of a very desperate man!
It really shouldn't be close at all, there is no choice for reasonable people. An articulate, intelligent, conscientious, energetic, successful person with a vision for moving America forward in excellent ways vs. a convicted felon who instigated a lethal insurrection against the country/Constitution he took an oath to protect as well as defying the espionage act with the theft of top secret documents and who has nothing to offer America except cozying up to dictators, advancement of white supremacy, division and tax cuts for the very wealthy.
I can’t wait to watch Trump lose epically to a woman of color.
I can’t wait to wear this Kamala removes orange stains tshirt on November 5th! 👇
This is so compelling and eye opening. Never realized the South African connection to any of them, except Musk. The hate and misinformation at this point, is at such a threshold to me, it is like shouting fire in a crowded theater. Where is the accountability? Arrest them and prosecute without mercy.
It's no surprise to anyone with common sense who has listened to both Trump and Musk repeatedly indulge in racist tropes and dog whistles. Elon Musk, along with certain South Africans, can no longer dominate Africans, so they've shifted to the U.S. to continue promoting their racist agenda. And who better to align with than Trump?
Peter Thiel bought Vance’s VP slot knowing full well Donald’s deteriorating from dementia and won’t be around long. He doesn’t believe women should vote. He got Vance into the misogynistic Opus Dei cult, where Vance picked up his contempt for women.
Leonard Leo & Harlan Crow, also Opus Dei members, bought 2/3rds of the Supreme Court & got Roe v Wade overturned. The billionaires want to be oligarchs over a theocracy where women are powerless.
Years ago, I had a yoga teacher/mentor who is a white man from South Africa. He left before apartheid ended because he came from a family of anti-apartheid activists, and refused to do military duty (at that time, the military's primary function was to enforce apartheid). He had to either leave or go to jail, so he came to the US. He is not afraid of Black people. This is the tragedy of the Trump et al mindset. The lesson that could have been learned by whites at the end of apartheid is that if you do not oppress people, you do not need to fear their liberation. It's so simple! You don't have to fear retribution from people you haven't harmed, but instead, the lesson they take is that they should oppress even more. I wish more of us white people were like my yoga teacher and less were like the current-day Republicans.
Thank you, Joy. It gave me a new understanding of the fear oppressive white men face. If only men (in very general terms) were to invest in building their own mental, moral, and spiritual MINDS...as well as their physical prowess, maybe they wouldn't feel so terrified of people of color and of women in general. Again, I am generalizing, but for many men, it's EASIER for them to go to the gym, or fail to crack a book, or fall back into the beliefs of their father's that they think they will always be superior to women and people of any color.
If they are someday forced to fight for their rights to advance in society, to vote, to control their own bodies...as women of all colors have always had to do, they might realize training their minds, increasing their compassion and knowledge is a fight worthy of their time and money.
Great historical context & reminder of who Musk troll-bros represent. In this conspiratorial pressure cooker melting American reality, add Vlad Putin, life-long supremacist & deadly poison-piller, his Q-anon agents Flynn, Stone & Bannon, a century of generational KKK-Xtian white neo-confederate discontent, social-media-connected "evangelical" fascistic "churches", stir in, steam & ignite with continual flaming from Murdoch & far-right media normalizing conspiratorial division & attack, fueled by the madman-mobster-villain from a bad Batman dimension himself, the man who pledges daily to destroy it all, deranged demagogue DJT, aka "Individual One."
Many folks weren't smacked awake by the war-sized confederate flag being paraded through the US Capitol, after a violent terroristic insurrection, to realize the "civil war" has been going on for some time, since 2016, funded by a billionaire corruption cult, a criminal conspiracy to destruct the US constitutional demcocracy by division, psychological war & outright terror & violence. The default normalization & concession of the establishment has led us to a theatre of insanity, derangement & global warfare. All to benefit of a handful of corrupt individuals & families & their criminal syndicates.
“Trump Contagion” is not an American cult, it is a global criminal conspiracy to destabilize, destroy & overthrow the US Democratic Republic:
Such important info to know and connect the pieces of fascistic efforts out there. This New Yorker article complements Reid's and reveals how "From crypto to A.I., the tech sector is pouring millions into super PACS that intimidate politicians into supporting its agenda."
With this development, we've become a government subject to even more extortion by billionaires and private interests. The good ol' USA, the Constitution of which I still revere, is now officially an overt oligarchy.
They don't seem to be aware that South Africa's and Rhodesia's white rulers had to give way in both nations to the majority black population.
The South African President who turned power over to Nelson Mandela shared a Nobel Peace Prize with him.
"Ol' Smiffy" of Rhodesia, of course, did not. Ian Smith was a World War II fighter pilot who suffered severe burns and got plastic surgery afterwards on his face, making him look weird.
On Stephanie Ruhle's show last week, I heard a lot about how young white males are being "left behind" and are therefore gravitating to trump. My take is they aren't being left behind, they are being expected to compete on equal footing for once with women and people of color and they would rather listen to bozos like Musk and trump tell them it's not their fault they can't do it. I cannot begin to compare my experience with that of people of color, but as a woman who decided to become a nuclear engineer in 1973 and attend Georgia Tech (which did not have women's bathrooms in buildings built as recently as 1972) and being told to leave class to make room for a man who would need a job, etc, I found that the most frightening thing to white males is being outperformed by "the other", especially women. And women of color are the scariest of all!
PS - that year my sister gave me a sign that says "Women who strive to be equal to men lack ambition." It still sits on top of my bookshelf under the clock.
Love the sign! Similar to my experience. I backed myself and told my boss, when I leave, it will take 4 of them to do my job. And it did. Karma is a badass!
Is it suppose to be as stupid as it sounds!?!?🤔
Here are my thoughts : One thing The Industrial building of America put in place were rich White Men who brought in money from land & rail road barons. All whose money originally came from European colonization. Colonization gave us our labor force. Natives, African, Chinese, Irish. This system has not changed. It tried to change in the 1960’s but killing our leaders. Putting laws in place to keep color from mixing with Europeans . Trump, musk, the money holders all believe they reign supreme! You cannot put us back in a box. There are too many of us. That’s why Trump is yelling lock up & deport. Their bubble will burst when fascism grabs hold of the next historic moment. A Black Women President. Musk is not all there. Trump is not all there. Vance is…… Dangerous. The Supreme Court is dangerous. The DOJ headed by Merrick Garland is a total disappointment. Musk should have been deported. Trump should have assets frozen and himself devoid of anything American. We have to Vote!! The VP better go to Michigan to get the American Palestinians to vote for her NOW!!!!
So true
😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
Here is my thought about that. With Republicans totally controlling Congress exactly how are we as Americans supposed to counter? If the idiot in chief has his way he might very well remain in office. The Democratic Party has been taking a few things for granted, i.e, Black and Brown votes. Perhaps I don’t know how things work in Washington, but it just seems that everyone is assuming that there will be another election. Could it be that the Democratic Party has been taking a lot of things for granted? It was them who said that Roe v Wade wouldn’t be overturned.
@Annesmith you know I wrote this the day after the election. I’d hoped by now the govt would have found cheating. In my mind that seemed the only way this disgust could end. As the days have marched on and nothing from our side. Play along with Americas 3rd greatest travesty. First was indigenous genocide. Second slavery . Here America is AGAIN. Greed!
These are precisely the three travesties MAGAts are referring to when they say MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN: genocide, slavery and greed. They want to EXPAND on each travesty and “improve government efficiency” by stealing the taxpayers revenue, which they themselves are careful NOT TO PAY, and eliminate social safety networks which have worked to benefit non-billionaires for many decades.
Supposed to counter?
How about you sit back and enjoy the fruits of all of the work that he and his team are doing?
Pretty hard to do when he shredding everything that made America great.
Proof?
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
So interesting Joy! Thanks for the hihistory lesson too. I am writing a piece as well speak (taking a snack break while I watch Nicole's show) about the degrees of white racism in America. I should have it posted soon 😉
Looking forward to reading it!
It's up Joy! I truly want to hear your thoughts on it. It's titled, "This May Sound Racist but..." LOL!
Elon showing up and jumping and everyone cheering is top 1 most cringe things I see every time. He is literally a 53 year old man.
The way he tries to shout "Fight, fight, fight" is on another level of CRINGE too. This dude will do literally everything for that tax cut Trump promised him. This is a speech of a very desperate man!
It really shouldn't be close at all, there is no choice for reasonable people. An articulate, intelligent, conscientious, energetic, successful person with a vision for moving America forward in excellent ways vs. a convicted felon who instigated a lethal insurrection against the country/Constitution he took an oath to protect as well as defying the espionage act with the theft of top secret documents and who has nothing to offer America except cozying up to dictators, advancement of white supremacy, division and tax cuts for the very wealthy.
I can’t wait to watch Trump lose epically to a woman of color.
I can’t wait to wear this Kamala removes orange stains tshirt on November 5th! 👇
https://libtees-2.creator-spring.com/listing/votek
Everyone will be celebrating in the streets!
Musk made 613 Billion dollars since Trump’s election, Hmmm.
Hmmmmmmm…..
Disgusting!!!! 🤢
This is so compelling and eye opening. Never realized the South African connection to any of them, except Musk. The hate and misinformation at this point, is at such a threshold to me, it is like shouting fire in a crowded theater. Where is the accountability? Arrest them and prosecute without mercy.
It's no surprise to anyone with common sense who has listened to both Trump and Musk repeatedly indulge in racist tropes and dog whistles. Elon Musk, along with certain South Africans, can no longer dominate Africans, so they've shifted to the U.S. to continue promoting their racist agenda. And who better to align with than Trump?
We need to deport or jail these African American fascists, seize their wealth, and use it for reparations to protect our sacred Democracy!
I'm assuming you mean the WHITE SOUTH African Americans, Yuri...
Peter Thiel bought Vance’s VP slot knowing full well Donald’s deteriorating from dementia and won’t be around long. He doesn’t believe women should vote. He got Vance into the misogynistic Opus Dei cult, where Vance picked up his contempt for women.
Leonard Leo & Harlan Crow, also Opus Dei members, bought 2/3rds of the Supreme Court & got Roe v Wade overturned. The billionaires want to be oligarchs over a theocracy where women are powerless.
It’s critical that Harris/Walz win.
Years ago, I had a yoga teacher/mentor who is a white man from South Africa. He left before apartheid ended because he came from a family of anti-apartheid activists, and refused to do military duty (at that time, the military's primary function was to enforce apartheid). He had to either leave or go to jail, so he came to the US. He is not afraid of Black people. This is the tragedy of the Trump et al mindset. The lesson that could have been learned by whites at the end of apartheid is that if you do not oppress people, you do not need to fear their liberation. It's so simple! You don't have to fear retribution from people you haven't harmed, but instead, the lesson they take is that they should oppress even more. I wish more of us white people were like my yoga teacher and less were like the current-day Republicans.
If little elmo was an admittedly illegal immigrant, why can’t we deport him NOW?
Thank you, Joy. It gave me a new understanding of the fear oppressive white men face. If only men (in very general terms) were to invest in building their own mental, moral, and spiritual MINDS...as well as their physical prowess, maybe they wouldn't feel so terrified of people of color and of women in general. Again, I am generalizing, but for many men, it's EASIER for them to go to the gym, or fail to crack a book, or fall back into the beliefs of their father's that they think they will always be superior to women and people of any color.
If they are someday forced to fight for their rights to advance in society, to vote, to control their own bodies...as women of all colors have always had to do, they might realize training their minds, increasing their compassion and knowledge is a fight worthy of their time and money.
Interesting! I knew Musk was South African but did not realize the others were.
Great historical context & reminder of who Musk troll-bros represent. In this conspiratorial pressure cooker melting American reality, add Vlad Putin, life-long supremacist & deadly poison-piller, his Q-anon agents Flynn, Stone & Bannon, a century of generational KKK-Xtian white neo-confederate discontent, social-media-connected "evangelical" fascistic "churches", stir in, steam & ignite with continual flaming from Murdoch & far-right media normalizing conspiratorial division & attack, fueled by the madman-mobster-villain from a bad Batman dimension himself, the man who pledges daily to destroy it all, deranged demagogue DJT, aka "Individual One."
Many folks weren't smacked awake by the war-sized confederate flag being paraded through the US Capitol, after a violent terroristic insurrection, to realize the "civil war" has been going on for some time, since 2016, funded by a billionaire corruption cult, a criminal conspiracy to destruct the US constitutional demcocracy by division, psychological war & outright terror & violence. The default normalization & concession of the establishment has led us to a theatre of insanity, derangement & global warfare. All to benefit of a handful of corrupt individuals & families & their criminal syndicates.
“Trump Contagion” is not an American cult, it is a global criminal conspiracy to destabilize, destroy & overthrow the US Democratic Republic:
https://beezevans.substack.com/p/last-ditch-effort-to-rescue-americans
Such important info to know and connect the pieces of fascistic efforts out there. This New Yorker article complements Reid's and reveals how "From crypto to A.I., the tech sector is pouring millions into super PACS that intimidate politicians into supporting its agenda."
With this development, we've become a government subject to even more extortion by billionaires and private interests. The good ol' USA, the Constitution of which I still revere, is now officially an overt oligarchy.
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2024/10/14/silicon-valley-the-new-lobbying-monster
Yes he is African and needs to go back there.
They don't seem to be aware that South Africa's and Rhodesia's white rulers had to give way in both nations to the majority black population.
The South African President who turned power over to Nelson Mandela shared a Nobel Peace Prize with him.
"Ol' Smiffy" of Rhodesia, of course, did not. Ian Smith was a World War II fighter pilot who suffered severe burns and got plastic surgery afterwards on his face, making him look weird.