When humankind can admit out loud that SAing females of all ages and little boys is a dark dirty little secret of societies around the world for hundreds of years.
When we can open up that festering wound and begin restraining our society, then we will have finally evolved.
We have to get beyond Patriarchy and move to Matriarchal Society. Its a painful move, but its time
I had hoped that maybe we had made some progress. Even allies in the press are saying things like, "Yes, I read the tip line transcripts. Some of these people are crazy/have mental health problems. I don't take those tips seriously." As a trauma therapist, I can assure you that survivors of complex trauma have mental health issues. That is different than making things up. But wait, most of these tips very similar. Through in some cannibalism and murder and the survivor is crazy??? What about these perpetrators and why do we draw the line at murder?
This would all be so easy if only we believed the survivors and didn't call some of them crazy. The whole point of the Epstein files debacle is that we are looking for answers but I guess only for the good survivors, not to mention that utterly dismissive judgement in the Diddy case where they had video evidence and evidence from multiple people both survivors and employees of Diddy's. Lest we forget the hierarchy, we spent barely a hot second on Diddy's survivors because they were mostly black and brown women.
Thank you, June, for this.
As survivors we know that we are harmed because perpetrators have a need to prove their power over us, humiliate us, and hurt us in ways that will always reverberate through our lives. It's a branding on our hearts and psyches. I am not saying I don't believe in redemption but there is no redemption without accountability.
These women are so remarkably brave to open themselves up for the brutality they are experiencing now. And is so often the case, the perpetrators sit back and watch feeling all the time like we are not human.
So if they could just show that everyone was guilty, they could normalize it the rest of the way and move the age of consent down to, what, 9? These people need serious counseling -- in jail.
Exactly Joy! MAGA, the Heritage Foundation, Project 2025, Age of Consent Bills, Evangelists, pedophiles.... want to rule over women and children. No voting, bank accounts, jobs, education, decision making, autonomy, nothing. How in the world do we purge all these like minded men and slap some sense into abiding women? God bless all victims of sexual abuse, survivors, those who perished and let's not forget athletes. Women's Gymnastics. The young men at Penn State. Jeez - these criminals are everywhere. Lord please help us. Round them up and put them in an ICE Detention Center until a thorough investigation is complete. I'm so sad about what's happened to humanity.
With my own childhood experience that’s sadly no different than what’s in the E files, I am neither shocked nor surprised at the contents. Heartbroken & angry that any other child had to go through this. And YET I am sickened & enraged that neither political party nor the media had a plan, an entire playbook of protocols to enact when the POTUS was found credibly accused of pedophilia and violence against CHILDREN! There’s enough there for mainstream press to report on “alleged” sex crimes against minors. If that wasn’t the point to report and impeach — what’s the fcking point? Just so every CSA or trafficking victim could REALLY KNOW that the President of the United States could showcase his violent pedophilia while marching down 5th Avenue? I’m telling ya, please, you’d better take real close care of your friends right now who have been victims (men & boys, women & girls) If NO ACCOUNTABILITY & JUSTICE is shown for Epstein/Trump survivors, I hate to say it but there will be many, too many unalivings of survivors of similar horrors right across the country and the globe. I really want to be wrong about that 💔
Thank you for speaking truth to power. MAGA was never looking for justice for victims. They wanted to expose and persecute Democrats. Trump and MAGA would not shut up about Q Anon and Pizza gate. Turns out it was a lie that the Dems were running a child trafficking ring out of DC pizza restaurant. But it is true that the world wide Epstein class of wealthy men (mainly white) were pedophiles and torturers. Mar-a-Lago was a recruitment agency. Trump won't allow the perpetrators to be unmasked and held accountable. This is a wake up call for all women who voted for Trump. The Trump Epstein class say "so what?" because they only see females as mothers and sex dolls who shouldn't vote unless they vote MAGA. Nick Fuentes' comments were not a jest. MAGA women have voted against their own health. Because of the Dobbs decision by SCOTUS, being pregnant in 13 states can be a death sentence because obstetricians cannot end medically dangerous pregnancies with what used to be a common procedure (d and c).
MAGA voted for Trump to hurt black and brown people and are confused that his regime has hurt them with tariff price hikes, the most jobs eliminated since the pandemic and have made health insurance unaffordable for small businesses and their employees. Trump doesn't care about women voters. His SAVE Act will disenfranchise millions because of his lies about noncitizen voters. The Heritage Foundation, creator of Project 2025, admits that there have only been 99 cases of ineligible voting since 1982. Unless the Dems get the House back in the mid terms there will be no accountability for the Epstein rapists. A nationwide abortion ban is on the horizon, if the GOP holds onto Congress, because MAGA women who voted to protect abortion in their states then voted for Trump.
Voting for Trump has brought back Jim Crow. Here's the racism other than elimination of DEI, erasure of American history and deportation of nonwhites. MAGA asserts that white women need to be protected from black and brown men but the Epstein files prove that white men are allowed to rape white women, girls and boys with no consequences. MAGA may lack a moral compass, but the rest of us believe in both the golden rule and the rule of law. We are the real moral majority. Let's turn out for No Kings on March 28 and GOTV for the Dems in 2026.
Joy, your article is spot on, except for the rhetorical question "so what?" I'm hoping for a more defined call to action by ethical leaders who are not compromised by the slime of Jeffrey Epstein. Rather than call Epstein's enterprise a "ring," I would describe it more like a snake's tongue that splits into two prongs. Organized crime is the tongue itself. The tip of the snake's tongue, which splits into two prongs, represents 1) the crime of pedo child trafficking, where even the survivors are being retraumatized and exposed rather than the pedos being held accountable, and 2) blackmail, geopolitical leverage, violation of national security, i.e., powerful global elites in other countries are already being investigated and prosecuted for discussing their country's secrets in emails with Epstein (not only for their criminal violation of children). Sadly, it looks like in some places bringing charges against those who violated children may move more slowly than bringing charges against those who violated the laws against high crimes and misdemeanors (like the Orange One) and were leveraged by geopolitical players through blackmail.
Thank for the article. Release those files concerning, Epstein. AG Bondi you have no credibility whatsoever or concern for the victims of Epstein! What do you do with your time? Worship our Trump as he is Jesus. God sent down the laws of Moses. These laws contain many specific laws. You should not worship, you she worship, God only ! Not Trump! The economy is in the tank right now. Secretary Noem let the two month old child out of the detention center. He is not a left wing terrorist or radicalized. He is quite ill, and apparently needs protection away from those in this facility that aim to do him harm! Please subscribe to The Joy Reid Show!
When humankind can admit out loud that SAing females of all ages and little boys is a dark dirty little secret of societies around the world for hundreds of years.
When we can open up that festering wound and begin restraining our society, then we will have finally evolved.
We have to get beyond Patriarchy and move to Matriarchal Society. Its a painful move, but its time
I had hoped that maybe we had made some progress. Even allies in the press are saying things like, "Yes, I read the tip line transcripts. Some of these people are crazy/have mental health problems. I don't take those tips seriously." As a trauma therapist, I can assure you that survivors of complex trauma have mental health issues. That is different than making things up. But wait, most of these tips very similar. Through in some cannibalism and murder and the survivor is crazy??? What about these perpetrators and why do we draw the line at murder?
This would all be so easy if only we believed the survivors and didn't call some of them crazy. The whole point of the Epstein files debacle is that we are looking for answers but I guess only for the good survivors, not to mention that utterly dismissive judgement in the Diddy case where they had video evidence and evidence from multiple people both survivors and employees of Diddy's. Lest we forget the hierarchy, we spent barely a hot second on Diddy's survivors because they were mostly black and brown women.
Thank you, June, for this.
As survivors we know that we are harmed because perpetrators have a need to prove their power over us, humiliate us, and hurt us in ways that will always reverberate through our lives. It's a branding on our hearts and psyches. I am not saying I don't believe in redemption but there is no redemption without accountability.
These women are so remarkably brave to open themselves up for the brutality they are experiencing now. And is so often the case, the perpetrators sit back and watch feeling all the time like we are not human.
Disgusted by both the perpetrators and the ones who cover up..
Joy, you always just get it. I think the Epstein case is a lost cause in amoral America. Thank you for your brain! It’s first class.
So if they could just show that everyone was guilty, they could normalize it the rest of the way and move the age of consent down to, what, 9? These people need serious counseling -- in jail.
Exactly Joy! MAGA, the Heritage Foundation, Project 2025, Age of Consent Bills, Evangelists, pedophiles.... want to rule over women and children. No voting, bank accounts, jobs, education, decision making, autonomy, nothing. How in the world do we purge all these like minded men and slap some sense into abiding women? God bless all victims of sexual abuse, survivors, those who perished and let's not forget athletes. Women's Gymnastics. The young men at Penn State. Jeez - these criminals are everywhere. Lord please help us. Round them up and put them in an ICE Detention Center until a thorough investigation is complete. I'm so sad about what's happened to humanity.
Trumpism, as my wife says to me, means "THE LAW IS FOR THEE, AND NOT FOR ME"
amen.. defund the patriarchy...this foolish goofball been hopping my entire life the women take over.... still hoping
From so many many gifted commentators, something that rises above the heap. Share it, folks, share it!
Now that we know what the problem is, what are we going to do about it (no, that’s not a question). We have some decisions to make, America.
With my own childhood experience that’s sadly no different than what’s in the E files, I am neither shocked nor surprised at the contents. Heartbroken & angry that any other child had to go through this. And YET I am sickened & enraged that neither political party nor the media had a plan, an entire playbook of protocols to enact when the POTUS was found credibly accused of pedophilia and violence against CHILDREN! There’s enough there for mainstream press to report on “alleged” sex crimes against minors. If that wasn’t the point to report and impeach — what’s the fcking point? Just so every CSA or trafficking victim could REALLY KNOW that the President of the United States could showcase his violent pedophilia while marching down 5th Avenue? I’m telling ya, please, you’d better take real close care of your friends right now who have been victims (men & boys, women & girls) If NO ACCOUNTABILITY & JUSTICE is shown for Epstein/Trump survivors, I hate to say it but there will be many, too many unalivings of survivors of similar horrors right across the country and the globe. I really want to be wrong about that 💔
Thank you for giving words to this insane shit.
Thank you for speaking truth to power. MAGA was never looking for justice for victims. They wanted to expose and persecute Democrats. Trump and MAGA would not shut up about Q Anon and Pizza gate. Turns out it was a lie that the Dems were running a child trafficking ring out of DC pizza restaurant. But it is true that the world wide Epstein class of wealthy men (mainly white) were pedophiles and torturers. Mar-a-Lago was a recruitment agency. Trump won't allow the perpetrators to be unmasked and held accountable. This is a wake up call for all women who voted for Trump. The Trump Epstein class say "so what?" because they only see females as mothers and sex dolls who shouldn't vote unless they vote MAGA. Nick Fuentes' comments were not a jest. MAGA women have voted against their own health. Because of the Dobbs decision by SCOTUS, being pregnant in 13 states can be a death sentence because obstetricians cannot end medically dangerous pregnancies with what used to be a common procedure (d and c).
MAGA voted for Trump to hurt black and brown people and are confused that his regime has hurt them with tariff price hikes, the most jobs eliminated since the pandemic and have made health insurance unaffordable for small businesses and their employees. Trump doesn't care about women voters. His SAVE Act will disenfranchise millions because of his lies about noncitizen voters. The Heritage Foundation, creator of Project 2025, admits that there have only been 99 cases of ineligible voting since 1982. Unless the Dems get the House back in the mid terms there will be no accountability for the Epstein rapists. A nationwide abortion ban is on the horizon, if the GOP holds onto Congress, because MAGA women who voted to protect abortion in their states then voted for Trump.
Voting for Trump has brought back Jim Crow. Here's the racism other than elimination of DEI, erasure of American history and deportation of nonwhites. MAGA asserts that white women need to be protected from black and brown men but the Epstein files prove that white men are allowed to rape white women, girls and boys with no consequences. MAGA may lack a moral compass, but the rest of us believe in both the golden rule and the rule of law. We are the real moral majority. Let's turn out for No Kings on March 28 and GOTV for the Dems in 2026.
Joy, your article is spot on, except for the rhetorical question "so what?" I'm hoping for a more defined call to action by ethical leaders who are not compromised by the slime of Jeffrey Epstein. Rather than call Epstein's enterprise a "ring," I would describe it more like a snake's tongue that splits into two prongs. Organized crime is the tongue itself. The tip of the snake's tongue, which splits into two prongs, represents 1) the crime of pedo child trafficking, where even the survivors are being retraumatized and exposed rather than the pedos being held accountable, and 2) blackmail, geopolitical leverage, violation of national security, i.e., powerful global elites in other countries are already being investigated and prosecuted for discussing their country's secrets in emails with Epstein (not only for their criminal violation of children). Sadly, it looks like in some places bringing charges against those who violated children may move more slowly than bringing charges against those who violated the laws against high crimes and misdemeanors (like the Orange One) and were leveraged by geopolitical players through blackmail.
So true. Excellent piece. What is our strategy? Because they don’t plan on stopping.
Thank for the article. Release those files concerning, Epstein. AG Bondi you have no credibility whatsoever or concern for the victims of Epstein! What do you do with your time? Worship our Trump as he is Jesus. God sent down the laws of Moses. These laws contain many specific laws. You should not worship, you she worship, God only ! Not Trump! The economy is in the tank right now. Secretary Noem let the two month old child out of the detention center. He is not a left wing terrorist or radicalized. He is quite ill, and apparently needs protection away from those in this facility that aim to do him harm! Please subscribe to The Joy Reid Show!