In this special bonus episode of The Joy Reid Show, Joy sits down with Dr. Robert P. Jones, founder and president of the Public Religion Research Institute to unpack the rise of White Christian Nationalism and its dangerous impact on America. They discuss Project 2025, the growing influence of white evangelicals, and how nationalism is reshaping U.S. politics. Dr. Jones dives deep into the history of Christian nationalism, its role in fueling extremism, and the challenges it poses to American democracy. He opens up about the unsettling alliance between religion and politics, the racial tensions escalating in the nation, and what’s at stake for America’s future.
ABOUT JOY REID:
Joy-Ann Lomena Reid (AKA Joy Reid) is a best-selling American author, political journalist and TV host. She was a national correspondent for MSNBC and is best known for hosting the Emmy-nominated, NAACP Award-winning political commentary and analysis show, The ReidOut, from 2020 to 2025. Her previous anchoring credits include The Reid Report (2014–2015) and AM Joy (2016–2020).
ABOUT ROBERT P. (ROBBY) JONES:
Robert P. Jones is the president and founder of Public Religion Research Institute (PRRI) and New York Times bestselling author. His newest book is Backslide: Reclaiming a Faith and a Nation after the Christian Turn Against Democracy (09/08/2026). He is also the author of The Hidden Roots of White Supremacy and the Path to a Shared American Future; White Too Long: The Legacy of White Supremacy in American Christianity, which won a 2021 American Book Award; and The End of White Christian America, which won the prestigious 2019 Grawemeyer Award in Religion.
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Check out Robbie’s books in our store:
The Hidden Roots of White Supremacy: and the Path to a Shared American Future
The end of White Christian America
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